tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-274643705736742657.post7712208132340221006..comments2024-01-25T21:59:49.727-08:00Comments on .: Warriors protest vote to strip school of Native American imagerySanta Barbara Daily Soundhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/17035136724518874622noreply@blogger.comBlogger15125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-274643705736742657.post-4188470937040020142008-05-18T20:49:00.000-07:002008-05-18T20:49:00.000-07:00Isn’t interesting that Amarita Salm’s High School,...Isn’t interesting that Amarita Salm’s High School, Hyde Park in Chicago, was known as the “Native American Indian”. Their year book is “Aitchep” and they called themselves the “Aitchep Tribe”. As recently as 2003, Amarita was not offended enough to keep her from attending her 40th reunion. In 2006, many alums were offended when the school board changed the mascot. The alums were upset that they Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-274643705736742657.post-33174406853868595082008-05-05T06:58:00.000-07:002008-05-05T06:58:00.000-07:00It may be tempting to personalize the issue in ord...It may be tempting to personalize the issue in order to try to understand it. Painting someone as a "good guy" or a "bad guy" is a tool to avoid thinking things through and seeing all sides of an issue. Describing this school board request as about only one person discounts all the people who took time to weigh in on the issue. The people of Carpinteira deserve more than cartoon simplifications Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-274643705736742657.post-35019988081018662362008-05-05T06:32:00.000-07:002008-05-05T06:32:00.000-07:00Any internet petition, on any side of any issue, s...Any internet petition, on any side of any issue, should be viewed as nothing more than amusement. Nothing prevents a person from entering multiple opinions, multiple times, using multiple names. Unless there is some follow-up verification, petitions are only entertainment.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-274643705736742657.post-92166082352803544292008-05-01T20:37:00.000-07:002008-05-01T20:37:00.000-07:00Becky Norton wants it HER way, no matter what! Cit...Becky Norton wants it HER way, no matter what! Citing the 14th Amendment for "discrimination" AND Prop 209 for "honoring"... by HER interpretation neither is allowed?! How about letting DEMOCRACY take its course, wherein the MAJORITY RULES despite Norton's disparaging remarks about majorities. Certainly it served her agenda when the MAJORITY of the school board voted in favor of HER cause!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-274643705736742657.post-56830368134761051512008-04-30T12:07:00.000-07:002008-04-30T12:07:00.000-07:00Even the Cordero family is split on this! Check ou...Even the Cordero family is split on this! Check out the online petition AGAINST removing CHS imgaery: there are at least 3 members of this Matisz-Cordero family who have signed it! (Among about 2000 others). Maybe I'm wrong, the people who signed are not related, and this name is as common in the Chumash tribe as Kelly is in Ireland?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-274643705736742657.post-18433862932894638812008-04-30T06:15:00.000-07:002008-04-30T06:15:00.000-07:00"caved under legal pressure from a small group who..."caved under legal pressure from a small group who does not support the school in the slightest" ? Lets get the facts straight! The Cordero family is a fine group of Carpinteria school and community supporters. Eli's brother was student body president during his senior year.<BR/>Also, it is the board's responsibility to follow the law, even if the law may be unpopular. No one would want a Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-274643705736742657.post-39014116923508243502008-04-29T23:03:00.000-07:002008-04-29T23:03:00.000-07:00Fine lets allow the majority of Native Americans t...Fine lets allow the majority of Native Americans that have been raised in Carpinteria that have been subjected to this to decide. Judging by the one's that spoke at the last board meeting and those that have stepped foward since I think you would be very surprised by the result. <BR/><BR/>You appear to be passing judgment on something you know very little about, perhaps you should have been Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-274643705736742657.post-48137125141949656002008-04-29T16:58:00.000-07:002008-04-29T16:58:00.000-07:00The people who get to decide if the symbols are of...The people who get to decide if the symbols are offensive are the people the symbols refer to: Native Americans.<BR/> Respect for other people's cultures trumps school mascots and traditions any day; the students should have been taught that. <BR/> We are a country of many cultures, although for a long time we were dominated by one. That time is over. Respecting other people's cultures is aAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-274643705736742657.post-32567538237079982572008-04-29T12:51:00.000-07:002008-04-29T12:51:00.000-07:00The Board caved under legal pressure from a small ...The Board caved under legal pressure from a small group who does not support the school in the slightest. Having seen the financials and demographics of the schoold district any monies taken from the education of students is shameful. Perhaps the Chumash would prefer images of slot machines, all you can eat buffets, and referendum politics instead?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-274643705736742657.post-82927842040259540682008-04-28T10:52:00.000-07:002008-04-28T10:52:00.000-07:00Becki Norton has left a careful and articulate syn...Becki Norton has left a careful and articulate synopsis of the problem. But I don't think the issue is quite that straighforward. Whether the use of Native American imagery does, in fact, "discriminate against, or grant preferential treatment to, any individual or group on the basis of race...color, ethnicity... " is still open to debate. The Civil Rights Commission gave a careful interpretation,Slavahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00316102249781875432noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-274643705736742657.post-16446346572309031622008-04-27T23:00:00.000-07:002008-04-27T23:00:00.000-07:00I hope I never become as arrogant as Mr. Smith tha...I hope I never become as arrogant as Mr. Smith that I feel compelled to disparage another person for protesting an issue no matter what my personal belief on the matter might be. If Mr. Smith wants to spend his time protesting the war in Iraq, I wish him well. I never voted for the current administration so we apparently agree on something. After all, it was men and women like those in Iraq Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-274643705736742657.post-58214071539310541912008-04-27T18:33:00.000-07:002008-04-27T18:33:00.000-07:00I consider the previous comment very misleading. ...I consider the previous comment very misleading. It takes advantage of the fact that many local citizens are not well-versed in their basic rights. We need to start educating people with the truth. In reality, under the 14th Amendment of the U.S. Constitution as well as the Civil Rights Act of 1964, this is a definite matter of discrimination and is absolutely enforceable up to the highest Becki Nortonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11635092755170344301noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-274643705736742657.post-58080158852992005902008-04-26T10:59:00.000-07:002008-04-26T10:59:00.000-07:00The "Civil Rights Ammendment" that Deardorff refer...The "Civil Rights Ammendment" that Deardorff refers to was actally just a recommendation from the U.S. Civil rights commission, a non-elected investigatory body with no legislative or enforceent power. In a press release the commission called for "an end to the use of Native American images and team names by non-Native schools." It is not part of our constitution, it is not the law, it is Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10040292549092350116noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-274643705736742657.post-91543803653225173292008-04-26T09:49:00.000-07:002008-04-26T09:49:00.000-07:00I'm not Native American, so it's hard to know whet...I'm not Native American, so it's hard to know whether the Carpinteria high school imagery would be seen as "offensive." Certainly it is stereotypical, but I can think of a hundred other stereotypical bits of fluff that don't keep me up at nights.<BR/>On the other hand, I despise the Santa Barbara High School icon. A "don" is either a Mafia boss, a male Spanish aristocrat with sexist and elitist Slavahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00316102249781875432noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-274643705736742657.post-75924676585206661882008-04-26T07:25:00.000-07:002008-04-26T07:25:00.000-07:00Strange and shameful protest. Lack of sensitivity...Strange and shameful protest. Lack of sensitivity and could only be born in an overly patriotic, superstitious and overwhelmingly christian community. I wish these a crowd of youngsters such as those depicted would protest something of value such as an environmental issue or political issue. Shouldn't these active and involved citizens be marching to the White House with impeachment signs in Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com